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3D Printing:
My first 3D printer, assembling and setup


  1. Introduction, unpacking and assembling sliders
  2. Installing the pillars on the bottom frame
  3. Installing the top limit switches and the top frame
  4. Installing the timing belts
  5. Installing the display and the filament feeder motor
  6. Installing electric devices and cables
  7. Adjusting the print bed
  8. Test print and test of Z-axis offset
  9. Installing CP2102 drivers and Cura
  10. Upload new 3D printer software - Marlin
  11. Mechanical calibration
  12. Setup Marlin 1.1.19
  13. Setup/Calibrate Marlin 2.0.0
  14. Tweaks
  15. Temperature P.I.D. optimizing
  16. Calibrate horizontal expansion
  17. Wind shield
  18. Replacing the nozzle heater
  19. To be continued

I take no responsibility or liability for what are written here, you use the information at your own risk!

15, Temperature P.I.D. optimizing:

When I bought new filament last time I got the ABS pro. It should be more resistance to weather so maybe good for astronomy use. That material needs another parameters in the setup, among other the nozzle temperature needs to be higher compared when using the PLA filament. When I increased the temperature I got oscillations in the temperature, at 230 it oscillate +/- 6 degrees Celsius. That blocked the 3D-printer to start printing. Something must be done to it, but what ?

3D printer, assembling and setup

This is the nozzle temperature, when reaching 230 degrees and above it's not stable.

After searching on internet about the problem I found this excellent site:

Check his site and follow his instructions, below I have make some notes how I did it and what software I used.

Sending G-codes to set the P.I.D. parameters:

Nothing is easy, sending G-code, something I can do with the software Cura that I already have installed. But Cura doesn't display what it receive from the 3D-printer, strange. Note: You must have your computer connected to the 3D-Printer through the USB cable and setup correctly. Once again out on internet and search for something easy to install that can do this, I found this one:

Before I do any change I note what the original parameters are:

G-code P I D note
M301 22.36 01.63 76.48 Nozzle
M304 374.03 72.47 482.59 Bed

In Marlin, the software that control the 3D-printer there is a built in function to automatically find the optimize P.I.D. parameters. It will be interesting to see how well it works. The bed heater works fine and I will not do any change to its parameters.

3D printer, assembling and setup

After I have setup Matter Control to my 3D-printer I need to ad the Terminal menu. At upper arrow there is a setup to enable the Terminal menu. I will appear where the lower arrow is, click on it and the terminal window opens.

I gave two commands according to the instructions above, but set the temperature to 230 degrees Celsius:

  • M106 S255 (set fan speed, S255=100%, S128=50%)
  • M303 E0 C8 S230 (set nozzle temperature)

End each command with a Enter or with the "Send" button. Note: When printing with ABS Pro some tell that the fan speed should be reduced, I Normally have it set from 25% to 50%.

3D printer, assembling and setup

The auto P.I.D. optimizing process starts and it take a couple of minutes.

3D printer, assembling and setup

When finished the recommended parameters shows up in the terminal list.

3D printer, assembling and setup

I gave a new command to set these new P.I.D. nozzle heater parameters in the 3D-printer:

  • M301 P13.08 I0.68 D62.95 (set the new P.I.D. parameters)

Compare these new parameters with the old ones in the table above. Big difference !

3D printer, assembling and setup

A second command store the parameters:

  • M500 (store the new P.I.D. parameters)

If you compile a new software for your 3D-printer you will over write these parameters. But you can setup these new parameters in the setup file of Marlin code. You find instructions in the link above.

3D printer, assembling and setup

At last I do a check what values are stored:

  • M503 (read the P.I.D. parameters)

3D printer, assembling and setup

And there they are and correct stored. The M304 parameters is for the heated bed, that temperature stability was okay and I didn't do anything with it.

G-Code commands:

3D printer, assembling and setup

List of G-Code commands and explanations.

I started up the 3D-printer and from Cura I set the nozzle temperature to following temperatures: 220, 230 and 245, all these settings gave stable temperatures within +/- 1 degree Celsius. The problem is solved I hope.

Thermal Runaway E1:

After I calibrated the PID regulator the 3D-printer worked for about a half year. Then I got new problems, the printer could stop after 30 minutes and give this error message: 'Thermal Runaway: E1'.

3D printer, assembling and setup

I started to investigate what happens during the printing process. I could see that sometimes the temperature of the nozzle could start to fluctuate, 225 +/- 8 degrees C or more. Normally I had a variation of less than +/- 3 degrees C.

3D printer, assembling and setup

I open the lid to reach the circuit board that controls the 3D-printer. I tighten all the screw on the terminal, the first four to the left is from the power supply and the next four are to the two heating devices. After that the temperature got a bit more stable.

I could still see that when printing big flat surfaces the temperature starts to fluctuate more, but now not that bad that it stop the printer. I'm not sure why it do like this, maybe it increase the flow of the filament which cool the nozzle down and then it could not do the PID regulation process as good as it should be.

3D printer, assembling and setup

The power supply deliver 12.6 Volts when unloaded. To check what happen during load I start with the Heating bead on, then I have 12.57 Volts, no problem.

3D printer, assembling and setup

With both heating bed and nozzle heater on I have 12.59 Volts, okey.

3D printer, assembling and setup

Heaters and all four stepper motors running, 12.68 Volts, okey.

3D printer, assembling and setup

When printing a flat surface which was what it did when getting Thermal Runaway, 12.58 Volts, okey.

With the information from these measurements I think there is no problem with the power supply.

I also checked the resistance of the temperature sensors, both the nozzle and bed temperature sensors hold 109 kohm at room temperature.

After that I read about the setup file about the PID setting. All these settings is in the setup advanced file. Looks complicated, and there is a setting to compensate for the cooling fan of nozzle. That parameter is not calculated when doing the automatic PID setting.

Here is a link of what problems can cause this:

3D printer, assembling and setup

Sometimes I get problems to get the filament stuck to the bed, maybe related to this problem.

One thing I will try is to put some thermal isolation around the hot nozzle, mine have none. When printing with ABS filament it's needed a bit higher temperature and the cooling effect get worse, maybe it helps. I can also lower the speed of the filament cooling fan a bit, as it's now it always running at 100%. If doing something like this, be very careful to not overheat some parts.

3D printer, assembling and setup

More things to check, the temperature sensor of the nozzle must be in good contact with the aluminum chassi of the nozzle. It's locked with a hex screw, don't tight to hard ! To reach it I have to unscrew the plastic pipe that direct the air flow from the fan, the black one to the left.

3D printer, assembling and setup

The heater is also installed in this aluminum chassi. I found this hex screw to be a bit loose.

3D printer, assembling and setup

Not fully functional yet but I could 3d-print the test module I use to calibrate the Horizontal Expansion at the next page. Still the fluctuations of the nozzle temperature is too big, on the limit to get a Thermal Runaway.

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